Here’s a good article about why Tibet is being ignored in the UN for sovereignty, but the Palestinians are not. It’s a sad reason, but probably true which is more of a criticism against the UN.
Monthly Archives: July 2008
Thanks to onejustworld, for providing me with resources for the Chinese-Tibet conflict. My goal is to read as much unbiased information as possible and try to come to a conclusion based on a logical decision, rather than emotional.
Thus far, historically, it still seems as if it’s not “case closed” on either side. Especially when compared to other similar histories. Meaning, if you looked at historical precedent, there seems to be enough to justify the Chinese claim to authority over Tibet. This doesn’t mean they deserve it, or Tibet shouldn’t be free. It means, that comparing the Chinese-Tibetan history to other histories, it isn’t so clear cut.
For example, in one of the resources pointed out to me is an article called, “Is Tibet Entitled to Self-Determination?” the author, Paul Harris, says:
The official position of the Chinese Government on this issue is that Tibet is an inalienable part of the People’s Republic of China (just as France once claimed that Algeria was an inalienable part of Metropolitan France).
These two histories aren’t comparable. First, France never had a geographic claim like China has. Second, Algeria had been colonized by the Ottomans, and then taken from the French. It was pretty obvious that the French “took over” Algeria. The same cannot be said for China and Tibet.
So, historically, it’s a draw so far as I can tell. I’m still reading.
But here is where I think Tibet does have a justified claim to independence, an argument I haven’t seen anywhere, so it’s probably a weak argument.
Though the Chinese-Tibetan history goes further back than any of the conflicts Russia had with her satellite states during the Soviet Union timer period, I think there’s a logical argument to be made here.
As soon as the Soviet government fell apart, these satellite states ran through the gateway of sovereignty. History wouldn’t have mattered because to the people of the time, they wanted to rule their own nation. It didn’t take long at all for other nations to recognize these new nations either. Even the USSR recognized it only a month after the Estonia’s declared independence.
Thus, I believe if communist rule in China ended, Tibet and other current Chinese territories would claim their independence like Macau or Sichuan? I’m sure the leaders in China believe this too, which is why they’ve been so hostile towards Tibet, and have tried to “breed” out the Tibetan culture.
Again, I’m still reading the history, but pragmatism tells me that Tibet should be free.
So, I’ve been reading about the Chinese-Tibetan conflict and have already learned two things that have surprised me, in fact, it’s the first two things I’ve read.
First, I’m surprised at the number of conflicts and wars that the Tibetan’s have fought in their history. Some of these conflicts began as early as 620, with the Emperor Gampo, then with Tridu Songtsän, and all the way up to 1904. I guess it shouldn’t have surprised me, but nonetheless, I had falsely assumed that Tibet had always been a peaceful nation.
Secondly, the relationship between Tibet and China is very long and complicated. I’ve seen relatively short websites that tend to simplify the conflict and others that are very intimidating. What have found out tonight is that it’s pretty easy for China to claim authority over Tibet. Tomorrow I’m going to read more about the Tibetan claims to sovereignty, but when you read about the treaties, the 3rd party nations that made treaties with Tibet through China, and the fact that there are over 56 unique ethnic groups in China that can claim independence if they wanted to.
This by no means justifies the recent violence of the Chinese government or the status of the Dahlia Lama, but rather, makes me realize that this issue isn’t as black and white as I once though.
I was given ideas of what to do for my months, and “in the eyes of a kid” was one of them. I’m not quite sure what to do with that, so I’m putting it off until I can get a better idea.
So, I’ll do something Adam said to do, and collect research for a month. Since next week is protest China month, maybe I should learn about the whole Tibet thing.
If anyone has any ideas, let me know.
So GeoCaching went well. I’ve hidden one cache, set loose 2 travel bugs, and have found 4 caches so far, 3 in California on a trip we recently made.
One travel bug is supposed make it back from Carlsbad, Ca to Mechanicsville, Va. The other will hopefully find its way to the Jonas Brothers for my daughter.